tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post9114212311384274479..comments2023-06-11T09:52:31.370-04:00Comments on Saratogian Newsroom: Ivins says it is too early to say of he will run for reelection, McDonald and Sabini on OTB and NYRAThe Saratogian City Deskhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12483093324074629001noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-20107196942570501712010-12-23T12:12:29.843-05:002010-12-23T12:12:29.843-05:00The finance commissioner and the mayor budgeted $8...The finance commissioner and the mayor budgeted $87,800 in 2010 for indoor recreation facility revenue.” As of the October date of the release of his then proposed 2011 budget less than $1,600 had been realized. <br /><br />For 2011 finance budgeted $165,000 in indoor recreation facility revenue. <br /><br />To suggest that the facility will be able to generate an average of $13,750 is simply not believable. <br /><br />This is a pipe dream and presents as another failure of the finance and the mayor to meet their fiduciary responsibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-59632752980632162842010-12-23T11:55:26.034-05:002010-12-23T11:55:26.034-05:00We do know the "rules of the game."
Eve...We do know the "rules of the game."<br /><br />Even with a "reduced" budgeted revenue of $!65,000 for 2011 the Indoor Recreational Facility must produce average daily collections of $470/day or $3300/week.<br /><br />That's every day, so if any one day use results in less than $470 the shortfall must be made up on another date. Perhaps Finance would be willing to present revenue reports to the City Council and the public at the first Council meeting of each month for the previous month.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-52019619769115653342010-12-23T06:55:32.639-05:002010-12-23T06:55:32.639-05:00Initial budget numbers for next year will come out...Initial budget numbers for next year will come out prior to the election. You seem fairly intelligent. Ever hear of quarterly reports. They will come out for the third quarter by October. Plenty of time to analyze. If you are accurate than adjustments will have to be made. Don't forget even though the three DPW people are at the Rec they will be pulled away for snowplowing and other needs when anticipated. Can't play on both sides of the issue when you don't know the rules of the game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-21867479575199332292010-12-22T13:06:35.534-05:002010-12-22T13:06:35.534-05:00There was not six months of usage. Camp Saradac wa...There was not six months of usage. Camp Saradac was centered there but the revenues we not applied to the Rec Center. The revenue was reduced to around $165,000 in the final budget I believe. If managed and marketed properly and with several major functions already booked for 2011 this revenue can be generated. I watched eight people at $8 each play wallyball this week for three hours. $64 an hour is a nice piece of change. I suggest you get a schedule of events and rate schedule and spend some time there in the morning hours and weekends. Basketball booming and could be marger with more volunteer coaching. Volleyball and indoor soccer in the works. I could make it happen!!!!!! That's the difference from someone who makes it happen than someone who doesn't want it to happen!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-58832408840654083392010-12-22T08:02:22.284-05:002010-12-22T08:02:22.284-05:00You will all recall that Johnson and Ivins origina...You will all recall that Johnson and Ivins originally<br />budgeted $194,803 in 2011 “Indoor Recreation Facility revenue.” This is more than $16,000/month or $554/day. <br /><br />That has been modestly reduced in the final budget, but the amended revenue is still well overstated.<br /><br />The 2010 “adopted” budget carried an $87,800 Indoor Rec. Facility revenue. This was reduced to $34,400 at some point during the year. By year’s end it is doubtful that the facility will generate even $15,000 or $20,000. To go from a half-year operational revenue of maybe $15,000 or $20,000 to a full year operational revenue of $194,803 is simply unbelievable. Even half that amount is probably overly optimistic. <br /><br />We are sure that Ivins and Johnson will keep the actual 2011 Indoor Rec. revenues under wraps until late next year- AFTER the election. <br /><br />Does anyone really believe that the facility will generate - on average - nearly $500 a day?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-55567744141162457322010-12-21T17:43:05.584-05:002010-12-21T17:43:05.584-05:00Three poor budgets in a row should not qualify any...Three poor budgets in a row should not qualify anyone for a third term.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-9537584419135598832010-12-17T11:04:34.951-05:002010-12-17T11:04:34.951-05:00Patrick - I would suggest you check final budget o...Patrick - I would suggest you check final budget on Recreation revenues. The number was reduced for the final budget. Also I would get a copy of next weeks Planning Board meeting. I would also suggest you interview Commissioner Ivins as well to get the factual information on how state funds are handled and not mishandled as stated above. After reviewing the FACTS than I feel it would be appropriate for your commentary as to your findings and put these issues to bed. When we discuss budgets and taxes political mumbo jumbo should be put to bed!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-89189877464936002232010-12-17T06:53:58.758-05:002010-12-17T06:53:58.758-05:00I don't believe revenues for the Recreation Ce...I don't believe revenues for the Recreation Center were overststaed. The budget reflects one full yer of revenue for 2011vs. three months of operation this year. Any competent individual should realize this. Revenues might even be greater if all the detractors and whiners would support the Center rather than attacking it constantly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-43199430939039655972010-12-16T19:04:47.405-05:002010-12-16T19:04:47.405-05:00Revenues for the Recreation Center are now overinf...Revenues for the Recreation Center are now overinflated. The increase reflects a comparison of one full year of operation vs. three months of operation in 2010. Need to do your homework. As for the one time revenues I'm not aware of them. Seems like a bunch of Saratoga Citizen and one future candidate whining again. But I do agee he should not run. As for Mr. Scirocco I don't believe he has the ability to generate a budget. I would agree there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-14703483158606266002010-12-15T16:22:36.774-05:002010-12-15T16:22:36.774-05:00I hope skippy doesn't run. he has shown he is...I hope skippy doesn't run. he has shown he is beholden to the unions and can't be trusted. How do you let a union employee do the budget? he should be investigated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-39211148070690172252010-12-15T15:39:56.960-05:002010-12-15T15:39:56.960-05:00This week a formal compliant was filed with the St...This week a formal compliant was filed with the State Comptoller's Office regarding Ivins' failure to show various State Revenues in his 2010 and 2011 City budgets.<br /><br />Both State procedures and the City Charter require all revenues - even one time revenues - to be specifically identified in the City budget so they can be monitored. Ivins has failed to do this in some cases and the complaint asks the State to investigate.<br /><br />Next, the 2011 City budget has several revenues that are grossly overstated and suspect. If these revenues are not realized (sale of the Lillian's lot and the inflated recreation revenues, to name just a few) both Ivins and Johnson will be held accountable.<br /><br />It would be best for all if Ivins leaves so the community can concentrate on getting its fiscal house in order.<br /><br />After all, we are spending over $600,000 in 2011 on Indoor Rec. facility operation and debt. If the budgeted Indoor Rec. revenues is not realized we will have to cut the budget and/or raise taxes again. <br /><br />Herrick and the rest of the GOP hierarchy know that Ivins is in trouble. He should not run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3916367746067142134.post-31585956448157851722010-12-15T15:02:20.874-05:002010-12-15T15:02:20.874-05:00It doesn't seem like any of those elected repr...It doesn't seem like any of those elected represent the the issues other spending money that many of their constituents can't afford.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com