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Siro's never-ending sound saga
SARATOGA SPRINGS — The Zoning Board of Appeals debated Monday whether to allow the wall around Siro’s Restaurant to be left up, at least partially, year-round.
Siro’s representatives asked the board in January to grant it permission to leave the wooden frame of its acoustic wall up all 12 months of the year — a modification to the conditions of the special-use permit granted to the establishment last June.
The board allowed Siro’s to erect a 6-1/2-foot acoustic fence atop its existing 8-foot wall last year. The fence’s wooden frame supports a black rubber sound-deadening material.
“You came to us for an exception, and we granted an exception with conditions,” Zoning Board of Appeals member Gary Hasbrouk said. “Now you are looking for an exception to the condition of the exception … . You are losing me here.”
Tom Frost, the architect handling the work at Siro’s, said removing the wall annually is
“major construction” and, because of the design of the wall, could compromise the fence’s structural integrity. He said it is held together by lag screws which, after a few years, would deteriorate the wood.
“I’m having a hard time with how taking it down and putting it up, compromising its structural integrity, is not a self-created hardship,” board member Adam McNeil said.
The Zoning Board of Appeals expects to render its decision at its next meeting Monday, April 23.
I am just curious, for the people reading this story, do people still care about the Siro's saga with noise? I was in a meeting for almost three hours last night to get this story, and not that it's unusual for me to be in such long meetings, but if I'm the only one who finds this interesting/entertaining/newsworthy, then I will find a better use for my time.
Let me know what you think.
Siro’s representatives asked the board in January to grant it permission to leave the wooden frame of its acoustic wall up all 12 months of the year — a modification to the conditions of the special-use permit granted to the establishment last June.
The board allowed Siro’s to erect a 6-1/2-foot acoustic fence atop its existing 8-foot wall last year. The fence’s wooden frame supports a black rubber sound-deadening material.
“You came to us for an exception, and we granted an exception with conditions,” Zoning Board of Appeals member Gary Hasbrouk said. “Now you are looking for an exception to the condition of the exception … . You are losing me here.”
Tom Frost, the architect handling the work at Siro’s, said removing the wall annually is
“major construction” and, because of the design of the wall, could compromise the fence’s structural integrity. He said it is held together by lag screws which, after a few years, would deteriorate the wood.
“I’m having a hard time with how taking it down and putting it up, compromising its structural integrity, is not a self-created hardship,” board member Adam McNeil said.
The Zoning Board of Appeals expects to render its decision at its next meeting Monday, April 23.
I am just curious, for the people reading this story, do people still care about the Siro's saga with noise? I was in a meeting for almost three hours last night to get this story, and not that it's unusual for me to be in such long meetings, but if I'm the only one who finds this interesting/entertaining/newsworthy, then I will find a better use for my time.
Let me know what you think.
Labels: noise, Siro's, Zoning Board of Appeals
posted by Unknown at
4:47 PM
6 Comments:
interesting - not 3 hours worth of time interesting...
What I wonder after reading the article is what are they trying to do to make the community business friendly? Siros plays takes, generates no school kids, tries to work out a noise issue with its neighbors - I bet Siros has been there longer than the neighbors... and the ZBA is working against them... not a good thing.
agree Ziro's is trying to be neighborhood friendly. What's in it for the board? And this wasn't YOUR waste of three hours-look how public officials screw us all around.
The zoning board is losing me on how leaving up a fence is a hardship on Siros neighbors? If the fence will eventually need to be replaced due to mounting and unmounting of the sound barrier, they can deny Siros a replacement fence, you get he picture.
Let's let the place close, annual tax revenue fom the million plus food & beverage sales is not needed, nor are the jobs or the charitable proceeds that are generated there.
It is not the issue of the continuing sound-saga with Siro's per se that needs to be addressed but the continuing saga of who you are or what you are in Saratoga Springs, NY... that you get what you want. It never ends.
The neighborhood is a 12 month a year responsibility.
The bar should close by 10 and the sound should be contained by the bar. Outside entertainment is a problem. I played in bands for years and we never played outside. The neighborhood has been there alot longer!!!!
I bet Sonny Bonacio would have had no problem getting that permit...
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