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Thursday, October 2

Nelson Ave. Drainage

It seems that I can't open my mouth around here without pissing someone off. Lets try this:

It has not yet been reported that work, I believe done by Kubricki excavating, has begun to mitigate flooding along Nelson Ave., by the Saratoga Race Course. In the past, this stretch of road has flooded anytime residents in that section of the city watered their flower gardens.

Work began pretty much as soon as the track meet ended. I'm not sure how long it's slated to take, but it's slated to pause for the winter, and then resume again in the spring. The road has been wholly closed during the day, which usually makes work go faster.

Just thought you'd like to know.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

East Side drainage project to start
Work aims to eliminate long-standing woes
Thursday, October 2, 2008
By Tatiana Zarnowski (Contact)
Gazette Reporter


Photographer: Peter Barber

Jablonski Excavating worker Dante Howe, left, guides a section of new storm sewer pipe into place while co-worker Melvin Colony lowers it into place with an excavator on Nelson Avenue in Saratoga Springs.Text Size: A | A | A
SARATOGA SPRINGS — East Side residents near Saratoga Race Course have waited a long time for dry basements.

Decades of flooded city streets and overwhelmed storm sewer catch basins should be coming to an end, thanks to a $2.5 million project the city is undertaking on Nelson Avenue and nearby streets.

The bulk of the work may be done before winter, with paving and reseeding grass taking place in the spring, said Stephen Jablonski, owner of Jablonski Excavating of St. Johnsville, the contractor doing the second phase of the project.

A flat area with a high water table, the neighborhoods west of Saratoga Race Course have had drainage problems for many years, officials say. A rising water table in recent years has worsened the problem, said Stan Borden, senior engineer for the city.

“The water table has been higher this spring than we’ve ever seen it before,” Borden said.

The existing catch basins on Nelson Avenue are dry wells, meaning they collect water but don’t take it away. “Since the water table is very high, the dry wells do not work,” Borden said.

Instead, water pools on the road and in people’s basements.

Sometimes there would be two feet of water in the street, Borden said.

That water also would flow into the sanitary sewer manholes, causing sewage to back up in people’s basements.

Some streets on the east side, such as Vanderbilt Avenue, don’t even have dry well storm drains, so water runs down the street and pools in low places.

The city is paying to install 36-inch storm sewer pipes to divert rainwater and high underground water toward East Avenue and then to the Village Brook, which runs under Excelsior Avenue and empties into Lake Lonely.

“We will address all of the areas that needed main line sewer and catch basins,” Borden said.

He said the extra flow into the lake won’t be noticeable to residents who live on Lake Lonely.

The project also will lower the water table in the area, because the pipes they are installing into the ground are perforated and will have stone packed around them to allow water up above to drain into the pipes. That’s in addition to the storm grates on the road level.

“Once the water table is down, it will stay down,” Borden said.

And homeowners’ sump pumps will be hooked into the storm sewer system underground, Borden said.

After the water problem is fixed, the roads won’t suffer as much from freezing and thawing of water on the streets.

Also, the sanitary sewer system won’t back up if the rainwater doesn’t pool in the street, Borden said.

Originally, the city hoped to have the project done before now.

“I was supposed to start before track season,” Jablonski said, but the first phase wasn’t finished. “I really couldn’t get in there until after the track season.”

The high water table also held workers back, Borden said. As they work, contractors have to install temporary well points to draw down the water in that section so they can install pipes.

October 3, 2008 at 12:51 AM 
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andrew, We still love ya !

We think that there was (is)a wetland lurking by Nelson and Crescent.

If you get a chance, check out the cattails that have been growing next the main track for the pas 50+ years.....look through the chain link fence....and the sod that they are digging up looks like a page out of the DEC's wetland code book.

October 3, 2008 at 10:43 PM 

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